A Note About the Doctors on Our Lists

Every doctor on our list has his or her own opinion about what defines Eagle Syndrome, and every doctor has his or her own surgical strategy for treating it. Over time we have learned that there are some doctors who are more experienced than others in doing ES surgery, HOWEVER, that does not mean they are able to provide a perfect outcome for every patient. Even the most experienced surgeons may leave some calcification behind that later requires additional surgery so symptoms can be more completely eradicated. Though this may seem disreputable on a surgeon’s part, each surgeon has to decide during surgery how much calcification can be safely removed without causing permanent damage to nerves & other soft tissues in the area. The surgeons usually err on the side of caution, thus they may need to remove less calcification than intended rather than risking a permanently debilitating or disfiguring problem for the patient.

We have recently had several patients comment that their ES pain & symptoms either didn’t end after surgery or that those have returned. In some cases, not enough styloid was removed &/or a section of calcified ligament was left behind and that seems to be what causes the continued or new nerve pain/other symptoms. There are a few doctors who do revision surgery for ES so these patients are not without hope of more complete recovery.

It is vital when interviewing a doctor that you clearly understand his/her surgical approach & the extent to which (s)he will remove elongated styloids and/or calcified stylohyoid ligaments. The best case scenario is for all calcification to be extracted from skull base to hyoid bone if possible - remembering that even though that may be the surgeon’s goal, your physical construct may prevent his/her ability to fully & safely execute that plan.

Many of our forum members have had great surgical experiences but others have not. Those who have done well tend to leave this forum and go on w/ their lives. Those who remain are the people who are awaiting surgery or are struggling with post op symptoms, and that skews the way our forum appears, in some respect, by making it seem like surgery isn’t very helpful. Regardless of your situation, we are here for you, to listen, encourage, support, and pray for you. We all understand how difficult & life changing ES symptoms can be. As your moderators, we have been there.

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Isaiah_40_31 and Jules


Thank you. I love the way you both frame things. It is all about perspective and supporting each other. We are so fortunate to have this community board

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Thank you @bmcdiddie! We both received so much encouragement & help from this forum when we were suffering, we decided it was important to give back, so here we are!

I’m still praying for you to find a doctor to do your ES surgery and soon! I’m so sorry for your pain & other symptoms. :gift_heart:

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I totally agree with your sentiments. IM sorry I havent been able to post more since my 2nd surgery in early December. Ive been dealing with a family medical emergency as well as an employment emergency on top of recovering from surgery itself. I moved on from one job to a new one that has been very stressful. Its left me so exhausted I couldnt do my usual participation here. On the good side, I didnt have the time to share more about my recovery or even focus on it. So far so good at about 16 weeks out although I still have numbness that is slowly going away.
From a patient advocate and paralegal prospective, it is good to write down ALL your questions prior to pre-op or consultation especially about the surgeons approach to surgery, skull based removal vs not and whether the surgeon takes out all calcifications. Post op meds, etc. External vs internal.
I always request the consult report at the desk when I check in and sign release of records and follow up by phone within 1 week to ask if it has been sent. Keep in mind that NOT all patient portals have the full consult reports or other detailed information beyond just a summary. If you don’t see information or answers in the consult report prior to surgery in that consult report, get clarification “in writing”. This is especially true post-op. Request a Post-Operative report that will detail surgery procedure - many patients dont know to ask for this. Often the doctor may talk to you after surgery while you are coming out of anesthesia…much of what you never will remember. I have found personally that by the time I get to a post-op follow up visit, the doc doesnt remember the details of your surgery (after already done many since yours) and some of that detail is not in the report and honestly lost forever. It always nice to have someone there to get the information after surgery but COVID has changed this for the the worse.
Along the process of pre and post op surgery, I request “ENTIRE” medical records from the surgeon and the hospital/ surgery center. This includes pathology reports. I want to see down to every minute detail what has been done to me and what obstacles were encountered during surgery. I also get all CT/MRI scans on disk and the reports as soon as possible after they are performed.
Based on my own personal experience and others recently, I wish I had done more of the above and I am a seasoned patient advocate.
Do your homework, ask questions and gather all the documentation available to you. You always have a right to your records for your own personal use. I hope that helps.


Well said, Snapple2020! Thank you for your additions!